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Kago Seirei · Feb 14, 2006, 10:47 AM // 10:47

Honestly, I don't like this idea. PvE is better experienced and learned through interaction and trying to do it alone rather than watching. Also, if its boring during the events such as FoW and stuff, how much more boring would you think it would be to watch it!? D:<

SpeedyKQ · Feb 14, 2006, 03:39 PM // 15:39

I think this is a great idea. I would love to be able to learn more about how effective PVE groups take on the difficult areas. As with PVP, many players get scared away from high-end PVE because snobbish players will insult you while you are trying to learn.

No, I wouldn't want to grab a tub of popcorn and watch one tomb run after another. But as a learning tool rather than a form of entertainment, this would be great. Might help the quality of PUG's too.

Makkert · Feb 14, 2006, 03:53 PM // 15:53

The thing is that PvE on observermode means that a succesfull farming build will be copied (which will happen anyway). That isn't a problem, but the excitement level of watching PvE on observermode will skyrocket downhill because everyone will know the succesfull build quick.
So how long will this be exciting?

Seef II · Feb 14, 2006, 10:52 PM // 22:52

Then we have the problem of deciding who to watch: 4 L20's killing charr at the great northern wall, the 31789513796749th barrage+pet team in tombs, or a solo guy at ettins?

Part of the fun is build creation, and in pve you are more or less free to bring whatever reasonable build you want.

Sagius Truthbarron · Feb 14, 2006, 11:07 PM // 23:07

I'de pay to watch a guy doing a run to Droknar's Forge before I would watch a Barrage Ranger group doing an Tombs. (I usually do Orders in Barrage groups, it usually takes 30 minutes. Its not 'all star' to do a 45 minute run)

Racthoh · Feb 14, 2006, 11:18 PM // 23:18

Thing is, the PvP observer mode got boring for me fast.

Oh look... another axe warrior/ele with gale. Another crippling shot ranger... another ether prodigy ele... another blood/curse necro... another mesmer covering Arcane Conundrum with Conjure Phantasm. Oh a ranger spike team... time to watch the monk save the day with Infuse Health for 15 minutes. Unless it's like an under rank 10 match, it's just the same build using the same strategy. I know of one or two guilds who are actually interesting or watch, otherwise I just don't even bother checking the matches anymore.

At least with a PvE observer mode some different builds would actually be watched. The only problem would be what gets observed. Time? Well 8 people are going to destroy an area pretty quickly (at least they should). Small groups? Ugh... Protective Spirit... Spiteful Spirit... Cyclone Axe... and it's not like there is any method currently in PvE that would promote someone to having the priority of being watched. If a guild group was doing something, prehaps then; just not random PUGs who are going to fail anyway. Although, I would like the option to watch people fail since all of those horror stories of PUGs do make me laugh. People with a high exp total? Well, again it would just be farmers since they gain it the fastest.

Another problem... what do you observe? Obviously you want high end areas that are challenging so people would want to watch them. FoW and UW are limited to favor, not to mention the abundance of farming and chest run groups. ToPK would be larger groups, and more than likely guild groups or "experienced" players attempting smaller sized groups. So being able to watch those smaller groups would be probably fetch some entertainment. So you'd get the odd guild group here and there doing something interesting? That sounds like it could be fun, watch PvE pros at their best.

kvndoom · Feb 15, 2006, 02:48 AM // 02:48

Here's my take, and I think it would be ok for pure random entertainment.

In any mission area, you bring up the menu, and you get to watch the last 2 or 3 attempts at that mission, successful, failed, or otherwise. Oh man, personally, I could sit at Thunderhead and observe that folly all day, every day. You could learn what to do, what not to do, or just get a very good laugh at the Mending warriors, Monks without rez, tanking Elementals, etc... You'd also know who NOT to invite to your PUG when you try the mission yourself, since the same folks you just watched will most surely be spamming "Experienced *.* LFG" seconds after you watch them embarrass the human race.

neoteo · Feb 15, 2006, 03:12 AM // 03:12

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Originally Posted by Sagius Truthbarron

I'de pay to watch a guy doing a run to Droknar's Forge before I would watch a Barrage Ranger group doing an Tombs. (I usually do Orders in Barrage groups, it usually takes 30 minutes. Its not 'all star' to do a 45 minute run)

well , even better , if you clean each round of tombs in 7 minutes ... less boring will be to watch.

if this is so easy to clean , i ask anet , please make something 10 times harder then this to shut up all the elite pvp #%@#@$%^ players

Grimm · Feb 15, 2006, 05:29 AM // 05:29

Sounds very boring, IMO. Farming is boring to do, much less watch. It's very repetitive.